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Post by helicrazi on Apr 27, 2009 22:01:21 GMT -5
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Post by helicrazi on Apr 27, 2009 22:02:21 GMT -5
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Post by helicrazi on Apr 27, 2009 22:03:12 GMT -5
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rdent
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Post by rdent on Apr 27, 2009 22:52:15 GMT -5
Heli, you should and can be able to fly it in manual mode. But it would be difficult to fly and photograph without GPS mode. The X6 hovers in GPS much better than I can manually.... Is this your second GPS module...?
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Post by helicrazi on Apr 28, 2009 0:14:54 GMT -5
Hi Rod, Cory sent me a GPS module and antenna about a month ago, so it's not the original one. it flys the same didn't make any difference at all. I can hold the x6 in a hover better in manual mode than the GPS can. the x6 is the easiest heli I've ever flown. it would be an incredible trainer, Lol
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Post by helicrazi on Apr 28, 2009 21:34:08 GMT -5
OK, here goes, meet up with another owner of a X6 this morning a little after 9:00, it was to windy 8-12mph, so we found a place that had zero to low wind. lifted mine up first about 30' out and 30' up and put it in GPS hold 11 Sat's 1.6 pdop it started acting up set her down. the other X6 went up and held good. he flew mine in manual mode to see if it felt the same as his in manual mode and it did. we did the hard iron calibration as I never had done it since when I checked it it was well within spec's. after the hard iron cal. it was a little breezier we lifted it up and wow what a difference !!!! the pdop was a little higher and I want to make sure it still dose as well with a lower pdop, only because I have had it happen before were it did better with a higher pdop, even though thats shouldn't be so. anyway I'm allot more encouraged now the only thing is Draganfly really needs to address what they claim as far as wind, there is no possible way that the X6 will fly in the winds that they claim !!! I feel that I have proved that and that is just misrepresentation !!!!! I had based our decision on what they claim it would do !!!! now on to testing the range both control and video.
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Post by skyshark on Apr 30, 2009 22:22:07 GMT -5
Helicrazi, Could you explain the procedure for a hard iron test? Did that solve the issue of the X6 drifting away from it's GPS point? I'm still conducting research on the craft. I'm looking forward to your range test for control and video. Have you used the base station for better video reception?
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Post by helicrazi on Apr 30, 2009 23:02:01 GMT -5
Hello Skyshark, The hard iron test and calibration are two different things, it's easier to calibrate then to test the calibration, what I will do is scan the procedure and post it here. the reason it's hard to check the hard iron calibration is there is nothing square on the X6. and I would recommend that you have nothing metal at all around you or even on you. mine was within the spec's, but once we did the hard iron calibration it was a completely different Helli, it stayed allot closer to were it was put into GPS hold. there was some wind and I would expect it to move around some, but it would have been good enough to take picture's. I also want to add, it maybe necessary to do the hard iron calibration with the camera on, we did it without the camera and we wonder if it would be different with it on ? I am going to check that also. I'll post my findings. I don't use the base station, just the controller and video glasses. I was told the it's the same wouldn't make any difference as to control of the X6 or video range.
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Post by helicrazi on May 1, 2009 15:22:33 GMT -5
I was able to get one flight in this morning, a steady 6mph ground wind, at 30' up 30' out it held fairly good, again I could have taken picture's, I was about 90* to the wind wind out of the west and x6 facing south, just for testing I took it out of GPS hold and faced her into the wind and it held allot better ? this has been something we noticed before, it shouldn't matter. oh well another trait ? honestly this is an awesome piece of technology, I just would like to see it handle winds that Dragafly claimed, there is no way that it can. the X6 owner I flew with Tuesday, looks up at the tree's an if he sees much of any movement at all the doesn't fly. I hate to limit myself to that, but I have no choice I guess. will learn to live with it, it will probably mean a lot of rescheduling.
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Post by sRagnar on May 8, 2009 21:36:30 GMT -5
i can live with the photography quality if i could get it up more often. as far as i have seen so far i cant do anything with the video and that was for me half of the reason i bought it.
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Post by rdent on May 8, 2009 22:36:47 GMT -5
Siggi, I agree that the platform is truly unique for photography... And that is allot of what we are paying for. The ability to put a camera anywhere in space.....When everything comes together... it is a thrill to see the pictures....from a 'hereto unforeseen' perspective. I haven't tried the video cam yet....But have been told by reliable sources that the post production Video stabilizing software is pretty good....Again, like photography....when the conditions are right (perfect). All handheld or copter hung videography is going to need post production stabilizing no matter how still the air is. There are many programs designed for it....I am now trying to find a good one for a reasonable price. Will keep you posted.
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Post by sRagnar on May 20, 2009 21:15:57 GMT -5
would love to see some further discussion on the video stabilization software and what works well. I think that I have to tinker with it more before completely toss that option out. i have to use it within the abilities that the X6 has and edit and work with that. I had such big plans for it while waiting for it and I think that I might have over estimated what it is capable of and what I wanted it to do. photography from it is great and I hope that with some adjustments and practice that I will be able to get the video portion to work better and better.
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Post by malc on Jun 28, 2009 7:28:06 GMT -5
Hi all,
This is exactly the same problem we experienced with our X6 in GPS hold mode it holds its position for 10-20 seconds then starts to move in increasingly larger circles. When I contacted draganfly i got the standard response ie you've calibrated the X6's magnetometers incorrectly -try recalibrating. Then the excuse was multipathing (signal bounce).
Anyway we stopped using the X6 a couple for months ago for this (and many other) reason(s) it now sits in its nice safe pelicase where the wind can't bother it.
We now have a microdrone MD4 200 - ok the payload is less (220g max) but it will hold its position to within roughly 1m in 12mph wind (ground speed) also it calibrates itself. Microdrone have a bigger drone in the pipeline that will handle (and carry out work) in 25mph and lift 1.5kg!
Draganfly have got to take the X6 back to the drawing board and make robust enough for the industrial/commercial market that they have sold into.
Malc
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